! sorry if this is not the best place to post this sort of question but here goes ( if there is a better place let me know ) ! I'm trying to make a tuple with a hashtable for the initial value of one of the slots. However, the initial keyword wants a literal value, so neither of these work : TUPLE foo1 { table assoc :initial H{ } clone } ; : TUPLE foo2 { table assoc :initial 3 } ; ! And if I do this, every time I create all the foo3 objects that are created end up sharing the same hashtable TUPLE: foo3 { table assoc :intial H{ } } ; ! Is there a way to do this using the initial: keyword?